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[00:00:47] Eric (Host): Hello and welcome to Private Banking Strategies with Vlo and Seth Hicks Vance. How are you? I’m doing great today. I’m, I’m excited to be back with you. I know that Seth, you, you both are doing well. We were talking a little bit before the recording. How have you been [00:01:00]
[00:01:00] Seth Hicks Esq.: doing? Good, Eric. Glad to be here and share, uh, an amazing podcast.
[00:01:05] Seth Hicks Esq.: We’ve got lined out for folks, so super excited.
[00:01:08] Vance Lowe: Yeah.
[00:01:08] Eric (Host): So
[00:01:08] Seth Hicks Esq.: explain to me what we’re talking about today.
[00:01:11] Vance Lowe: We’re gonna be talking about some of the human factors that everybody faces almost every single day. Things we have to conquer every day, and the success stories that if we can conquer those will literally win by default, so to speak, because no one else can do it consistently.
[00:01:34] Eric (Host): Okay. The human factor. I like that. A lot of times that’s taken in a negative and I think that that’s where we’re going with this, is the human factor causes us to stumble,
[00:01:42] Vance Lowe: it causes us to stumble, but we’re going to explain and share how easy it is to overcome these everyday tendencies. It’s not complicated at all.
[00:01:52] Vance Lowe: Alright, well let’s dig in. Where do we start? Alright, the first human factor. [00:02:00] Uh, we wanted to share with our folks that we’re not gonna get in and read the book, but you might want to do this and get r Nelson Nash’s book, becoming Your Own Banker. He really outlines five laws about human factor that we have to overcome.
[00:02:20] Vance Lowe: Our approach today is our experience with people. In the human factor. So we wanna share with you how these things really comply and work in our lives. And the very first one we’re gonna call Parkinson’s law. Go. Parkinson lived in 1909 until 1993, and he was a British analyst. And he wrote a book and he called it Parkinson’s Law, and we can get a lot of information from that.
[00:02:56] Vance Lowe: So there’s a book that people can [00:03:00] read to find out a lot more about this stuff, but it states that. Or he was able to observe certain things that happen and one of those, he actually states that his quote is, work expands to meet time envelope allowed. So let’s make sure we’ve got the definition. Seth, what does that mean to you?
[00:03:24] Seth Hicks Esq.: Well, it means if someone says, Hey, I need you to get that done tomorrow, that creates a fire and an urgency that you’ve got to get cranking on it. But if they say, Hey, I need you to get that done by next week, you’ve got a little more space. And if they even gave you more time like, Hey, I need you to do that before summertime.
[00:03:43] Seth Hicks Esq.: And you’ve got a three month, a four month, six month window. You may not even think about it getting started right now. So a lot of people will effectively do things according to how much space they’ve got to do it. It’s per, I guess you could sum it up with the word [00:04:00] procrastination.
[00:04:02] Eric (Host): I was gonna say, that’s me in a nutshell.
[00:04:03] Eric (Host): A lot of times if I’m given too much leeway or if I give myself too much leeway or slack, I’ll fill that time with other things. I can procrastinate with the best of them, trust me.
[00:04:14] Vance Lowe: Okay. I think part of folks, part of our podcast and the success today is really gonna be a lot on some of Eric’s. Comments because he lives these laws and fights these laws every day, but he uses a different angle and he just told you the truth.
[00:04:32] Vance Lowe: And we all face exactly that same thing. We’ll procrastinate if we need to. We’re, we’re not supposed to. We know that being prepared, trying to get things ahead of time is the right way to do it. Right. Definitely.
[00:04:47] Seth Hicks Esq.: You guys, here’s a perfect example of procrastination. We have a, a great. Client and we’ve actually done a podcast that features them and their success.
[00:04:59] Seth Hicks Esq.: But there was [00:05:00] a time when I was counseling this individual because we’ve been friends for 30 years about the need for asset protection, and he procrastinated and dusted it off and said, I’ll get to it, I’ll get to it. And he never got to it and effectively was wiped out in the mortgage crisis. And he could have taken some very, very simple steps.
[00:05:20] Seth Hicks Esq.: That would’ve prevented the wipeout. And if you think, if you’re sitting there listening and I really don’t need asset protection, I urge you to listen to the Chandler Testimonial podcast that we have. It’s an amazing story and it will, if it doesn’t persuade you that you do need asset protection, then nothing.
[00:05:39] Vance Lowe: So if we were to give a person a job to do and tell ’em to do it in three days, you can bet your last dollar that it’ll be late that third day by the time that project gets done.
[00:05:54] Eric (Host): Is that why we see state construction workers just standing there a lot of times, just [00:06:00] don’t wanna make anybody angry. But
[00:06:01] Vance Lowe: yeah, remember in school, oh yeah.
[00:06:03] Vance Lowe: Oh, you’re doing exams, you’re cramming right there at the last minute. That same project you give to a second person and you give him 30 days, guess when he’ll complete it? Or he’ll complete it the night of the 30th day because they have all that time to do it.
[00:06:22] Eric (Host): Yeah.
[00:06:23] Vance Lowe: So. Part of Parkinson’s law is dealing with that factor, okay?
[00:06:30] Vance Lowe: And being able to recognize your responsibilities. And not wait till the last hour. ’cause the failure comes in when some unexpected event happens. How many times were we not able to get it done? ’cause we waited, waited to the last moment. We tell our kids this, we teach ’em. Okay? So it’s important that we understand that.
[00:06:54] Vance Lowe: I wanna move on to the very next one. Which is a luxury. Once [00:07:00] enjoyed, becomes a necessity. Now, neither one of you are as ancient, as old as I am, and I remember that cars did not have air conditioning when I was a kid. It was very much a luxury. Would you think of buying a car today that doesn’t have air conditioning?
[00:07:22] Eric (Host): I grew up in Washington state and the houses didn’t have air conditioning and the cars certainly didn’t have air conditioning ’cause it was so tempered. But now that I’ve been spoiled, and if you go back to Washington today, you can’t rent a car without one because you used to rent cars and they didn’t have them.
[00:07:37] Eric (Host): Nobody really had ’em ’cause it was pretty mild temperatures. But shoot one day at 85 degrees outside and everybody’s like, I gotta have it. So, no, totally agree. You don’t have to be that old to to remember. No air conditioning.
[00:07:50] Vance Lowe: Okay. Yeah, I, I proved corrected on that. But I think it’s important for us to understand there’s so many things that we think are [00:08:00] a necessity today, and they’re not.
[00:08:02] Vance Lowe: And the reason I bring that up, because I deal with clients all the time. When I ask the questions, we’re talking about debt, and then I asked, let’s talk about assets. And they say, I don’t have any, but I want to start this strategy. Then we go through the process of finding the money and it’s just absolutely amazing how much we, what we spend our money on that does not contribute to the quality of life or the sustaining of life.
[00:08:37] Vance Lowe: How about every one of us have cell phones? I have three. All with different phone numbers. I don’t know how many you guys have, but can I do without those? Not anymore. Yeah. My wife gets mad at me because I won’t answer my cell phone. I have the attitude look. I’m the rule, I’m the boss [00:09:00] here, not my phone.
[00:09:01] Vance Lowe: Mm-hmm. And yet we watch people who in the middle of the most important decision they’re ever gonna make on their life. Pause to answer their phone or text. Right? Oh
[00:09:12] Eric (Host): yeah. Yep, yep. Vance, I think Seth is younger than us. Am I right? I think Seth, he’s quiet over there. I remember when we, my family bought our first microwave and now I can’t imagine today for lunch.
[00:09:25] Eric (Host): I reheated a burger. Took me a minute. You know,
[00:09:29] Seth Hicks Esq.: I couldn’t live without one of those. Seth share with has your experience on that, would you? Sure. I, I don’t use microwaves, Eric, believe it or not, there’s not one in our house, but it’s. Because of the nuclear fusion that goes on. That’s not so good for your health that I steered away from ’em.
[00:09:43] Seth Hicks Esq.: But yeah, cell phones, I’m, I know what they are. I’ve got one. And computers. Yeah, I’ve used those two and totally agree. Yeah. Once you’ve got something that becomes a better mouse trap for you, it’s no longer something that you can do without. It’s a necessity. Can you [00:10:00] imagine doing business without. Emails.
[00:10:03] Seth Hicks Esq.: Oh yeah. And there was a time that we did business without emails and you’re sending letters back and forth. And so absolutely. Something that was once a luxury that now has become implemented in your normal systems and life, it becomes a necessity. Oh,
[00:10:18] Vance Lowe: I remember when the fax machine was created. Holy cow.
[00:10:21] Vance Lowe: Did that save time? It revolutionized business. Alright, onto the next one here. One of the other things that. We face or that I faced working with clients is his next quote, expense rises to equal income. So if we get a big pay raise, then it affords us to be able to go out and buy more things and do more stuff.
[00:10:51] Vance Lowe: Buy more fancy cars. Buy a bigger house, and it doesn’t have to be this way. Everything we’ve talked about up to this point. [00:11:00] Doesn’t have to be the status quo, and that’s why we’re bringing this up. There’s a better way to do this rather than to doing the same thing everyone else is doing. If we just take a, a big look or a high level look at the way we’re approaching things.
[00:11:19] Vance Lowe: Life, our goals and everything else we can soon spot where we could be much better off and be more wise. So we need to be able to beat Parkinson’s law every day. ’cause if we don’t, my mentor years ago told me that if you can’t beat. Parkinson’s law, he actually introduced it another way. All what all this means when it comes to expense is that we have to live on less.
[00:11:55] Vance Lowe: That we bring home, there always has to be a surplus. And if that surplus [00:12:00] then is put to work in our strategy or any type of banking strategy, people will be better off every single day than they were the day before. And that builds momentum and it gets huge. And just like our successful clients, they can’t believe that it happens so fast.
[00:12:21] Vance Lowe: I didn’t really change anything, but yet all the workings were put together correctly, so we have to beat it anyway, he was saying that if you can’t live on less than you bring home and beat Parkinson’s law, you might as well go in the backyard, dig a big hole. And jump in and then call over to your neighbor and have him come over and bury you because you will be a slave to the system for the rest of your life.
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[00:13:31] Seth Hicks Esq.: And that’s something that people should understand is Vance is a consummate servant, and there’s not anybody that he really says, Hey, go dig a hole in your backyard. Unless they tell ’em, yeah, I spend more than I make. And I don’t have any plan on changing that. I don’t really, you know, know how I could do that.
[00:13:51] Seth Hicks Esq.: And that’s when he’ll say, we can’t help you. So the O only folks that Vance will effectively turn out are the folks that don’t have the [00:14:00] ability to spend less than they make. And I think that’s really within everybody’s reach. It’s more mindset. Eric and peeling back things that people think are necessities or you’ve heard people say probably financial advisors.
[00:14:13] Seth Hicks Esq.: Hey, stop drinking a coffee at Starbucks every day. Do you know how much money that’s actually costing you over the year? Add it up. Mm-hmm. 10 to the thousands, literally. Or do you need the junk food? Do you need chips and cokes? You need those things. No. Do you need a cell phone? Yeah, probably. Do you need a computer?
[00:14:29] Seth Hicks Esq.: Yeah, probably. Um, but. You don’t need a lot of things that, that you’re spending money on. We’ve had some Vance and I will kinda laugh in private, uh, at some of the things we see folks spending money on that they think they, they have to spend money on. And it’s all mindset. It really is mindset. And if you are able to make some pruning.
[00:14:50] Seth Hicks Esq.: Your spending habits, then there’s money that you can actually cycle back and get it working for you and not against you. We
[00:14:57] Eric (Host): can justify anything, and we’re not [00:15:00] gonna get into the minivan that I leased because that was a huge mistake and blew our budget outta the water. But my wife and I justified that purchase, and I don’t like being the example for all these laws that I’ve broken, but I have one on this.
[00:15:12] Eric (Host): The expenses rise to equal income. I wanna make sure that the audience knows. I didn’t know these rules before we started this conversation, and I have a perfect example. When my wife and I were younger, we were probably bringing in about $35,000 in into the household budget in on a year, yearly basis.
[00:15:28] Eric (Host): And we got a new job and we were living normal, a normal life, renting a while. We were renting a house, we had car with a small car payment, groceries, the normal bills that everybody else has, but my wife and I got a job. The, the starting salary and we worked together, the starting salary was 48,000, so that was a huge pay increase for us.
[00:15:47] Eric (Host): Plus we moved to the location of that job site. They gave us a house so we, not outright, they, we had living quarters, let’s put it that way. So all of our living expenses were taken care of. All of our groceries were taken care of. We [00:16:00] were given a van to drive because we were working with youth and all the gas was taken care of, the van was taken care of.
[00:16:06] Eric (Host): Guess how much of that? I was so excited. I told my dad, I’m like, you have no idea. This is gonna change our lives. We’re gonna, we’re gonna be able to save at least half of our salary every year and put it away and never touch it.
[00:16:21] Eric (Host): Guess how much we saved? Nothing that, yeah, it was hardly anything we were putting into a 401k. Sure. So that was an improvement. But as far as our monthly budget and everything, you wanna talk about expenses rising to equal that income we’ve got, we got a better car. We leased a minivan, like we talked about before.
[00:16:38] Eric (Host): We took more time with our kids to do, you know, vacation type stuff. And going out to the movies more, going out to dinner more. We didn’t save squad. Because all of a sudden we had the extra income and we weren’t disciplined and we could justify anything. Yeah. I, I don’t mind being the example, but man, I feel a little beat up over here.
[00:16:54] Eric (Host): Fans.
[00:16:56] Vance Lowe: Let’s see, folks, what we’re trying to share with you [00:17:00] is we’re all human. Every single one of us, we all fight this battle every day. I fight this battle, okay? Because. I can spend money if I want to, but do I need to? And old habits for me now die hard. So it’s more of, you know, somebody prodding me.
[00:17:18] Vance Lowe: Yeah, you have a hole in your shirt, don’t you think you ought to replace it? Hmm. But depends on where the hole is. Yeah. So let’s now assume that, okay, today we’ve conquered Parkinson’s law. What that means to us is that we. Improving wealth wise every single day, which hits us with the next human factor.
[00:17:47] Vance Lowe: And this one really might not be our own fault. And we call it the Willie Sutton law. And you can read about that in Nelson Nash’s book. He was [00:18:00] a famous bank robber. He lived 1901 to 1980. And he was very proficient at robbing banks, and he was interviewed one time by a reporter and he was asked the question, why do you keep robbing banks?
[00:18:20] Vance Lowe: And the famous quote was, he actually hit his head and said, duh. That’s where the money’s kept.
[00:18:29] Hmm.
[00:18:29] Vance Lowe: That’s why I rob it. ’cause that’s where the money is. So what does all that mean in something that we have to face every day? What that means is where the wealth is, someone will try to take it back. In ancient history, there was two ways to earn money and that was creation of man.
[00:18:48] Vance Lowe: I think you could earn it by building it up or you could steal it. One of the two ways and bring us forward to today. Who is [00:19:00] the largest steeler of wealth that we know of today? I don’t know.
[00:19:06] Seth Hicks Esq.: Legal legalized theft. Eric, who
[00:19:08] Vance Lowe: legalized theft? Yes.
[00:19:11] Seth Hicks Esq.: Oh,
[00:19:11] Vance Lowe: that’s legalized theft.
[00:19:13] Eric (Host): It’s gotta biblical Sam. Right?
[00:19:16] Vance Lowe: IRS, the government, whatever else.
[00:19:19] Vance Lowe: So there’s a purpose here on a bell of warning for everybody, and we deserve what we get because we haven’t stopped it. Laws become corrupt when laws are put in force. They’re there to help people to save what they’ve got, but. Politically, when it goes political, that law goes political. Then it’s introduced what is called the greed factor and the politicians and.
[00:19:50] Vance Lowe: Politics go in and they turn that law and completely reverse it. And then they bring in the police force to obey those new [00:20:00] definitions of the law, and now the law starts working against us and becomes corrupt. So we have to understand that someone is always going to be out there. And gonna want to steal it.
[00:20:14] Vance Lowe: Let me give you a great example, Eric, Seth. We’re gonna shop in the mall. We just got paid or whatever else. We go to the mall. I come into the mall and I come up behind you and I put a gun to your head and I say, give me every bit of money you’ve got in your wallet, and that’s on you right now. And there’s other people watching.
[00:20:36] Vance Lowe: How are those other people gonna feel when they say me trying to rob Seth? Eric, how does that make you feel? Oh, well,
[00:20:45] Eric (Host): they’re either gonna be very angry or scared or both.
[00:20:48] Vance Lowe: Yeah. And what am I to you? A danger? I’m a thief, right? Yeah. Okay, now let’s back that up a little bit. Let’s go into the mall [00:21:00] and let’s talk to all the people around us and tell the people what’s gonna happen in about 30 minutes and when that happens.
[00:21:10] Vance Lowe: We’re gonna share all that money with everybody that we get. Now, how are people gonna react when that event happens? There’s actually two outcomes, but do you know what that’s called? It’s called democracy. When we take, when we pass laws and we take. Something from other people for our benefit, and that’s what our government is all about, is they don’t earn anything.
[00:21:38] Vance Lowe: They don’t produce anything, but they take everything and try to give it to other people who aren’t working and who aren’t sharing. Why are we talking about this? Why are we faced with this? Is because we have to deal with it upfront and we can deal with that if we can literally create. Our [00:22:00] own world, so to speak, that can’t.
[00:22:04] Vance Lowe: Be attacked. What if we create our own little environment that is non-taxable? Share with us, Seth, a little bit about that and how you feel, uh, on the take of this Willie Sutton.
[00:22:16] Seth Hicks Esq.: Sure. I saw an interesting, I, I guess it was kinda like a joke, but it was supposedly based in fact, and it made a reference to the founding fathers at the, the beginning of our country.
[00:22:27] Seth Hicks Esq.: Uh. Creating a revolution based on a 3% tax without representation, and now you’ve got a 35, 45, 48, 50% tax rates and brackets with people begging for them not to take anymore. And so I think that the climate has. Continually been ratcheted up and ratcheted up, and we’re still one of the least taxed countries, if not the least taxed countries in the world.
[00:22:56] Seth Hicks Esq.: And so the taxation issue, I think is on the [00:23:00] forefront of most. People’s minds in the country. And so they want to, they want to protect what they make. They want to keep what they make. And one of the ways that you keep what you make is by paying as little tax as legally possible, and with the private banking strategies, you’re able to keep your own economy and system where you’re getting multiple touches on the same dollar, and it is legally.
[00:23:25] Seth Hicks Esq.: Not taxed according to Internal Revenue Code 77 0 2. And so this is a technique and a strategy that most politicians use, that bankers use, and they ultimately use the laws that are at their discretion and disposal to the their best benefit. And so we’re highlighting that and we want people to know that you can plan your own sandbox.
[00:23:51] Seth Hicks Esq.: Where you don’t have to pay exorbitant taxes on money that you make, and you’re able to keep more than than you normally would.
[00:23:59] Vance Lowe: Eric, [00:24:00] share with us your thoughts on the Willy Son-in-law and how it might be affecting you.
[00:24:05] Eric (Host): Well here, here’s the thing is that while you guys are talking, I just jumped over to the US debt clock outta curiosity.
[00:24:11] Eric (Host): I wanted to see where we are at and it, it has a great breakdown. So any listener, you should go take a look. It’s a little scary, but it says Debt per tax payer is $242,986 right now. And that’s per taxpayer. Amazing. So that doesn’t make me feel good. So that falls right in with this Willie Sutton’s law.
[00:24:32] Eric (Host): And uh, Seth, what you were just talking about is, if anybody listening to this can call you guys and say, no, I’m, I’m positive that, uh, that taxes are going down in the future, I think your phones are gonna be silent, Vance. You won’t have to worry about any of those cell phones ring now. ’cause nobody that I know thinks that taxes are going down.
[00:24:49] Eric (Host): And so I, I am all about. Protecting myself, paying my fair share of course, but only my fair share and. As little as possible. I don’t want [00:25:00] 242,000. That’s, no, that’s not, that’s not happening.
[00:25:04] Seth Hicks Esq.: Okay. Here’s another quick example. And we may have mentioned this before, but in the debates before Donald Trump became president, he was debating Hillary Clinton and she kept sounding trumpet.
[00:25:15] Seth Hicks Esq.: He doesn’t pay taxes, he doesn’t pay any taxes. And he said, that’s because I’m smart. I’m legally reporting and taking advantage of. The laws that are set in place, and I don’t pay any taxes because I’m smart. And the guy who was worth $10 billion, how do you, how are you worth $10 billion? You don’t pay any taxes.
[00:25:35] Seth Hicks Esq.: It’s because he’s smart and he takes advantage of the laws that are on the books and that are available to all of us. And this is one of the great tools that most people just don’t know about, and that is that your, your private banking through whole life insurance is after tax. It’s not af after tax deposits are no longer reported to the IRS.
[00:25:59] Seth Hicks Esq.: You can put [00:26:00] money in and out and that accumulates and grows. Compounds year after year without any tax event
[00:26:06] Vance Lowe: whatsoever. Okay. We’re gonna wrap up Willie Sutton Law with a quote. There’s many quotes, but let’s just go with a real simple one. The state is that great fiction whereby everyone tries to live at the expense of everyone else.
[00:26:24] Vance Lowe: And that was Frederick Bassist who made that quote,
[00:26:29] Seth Hicks Esq.: said like a true Texan. I, I think it’s Baptist, but go ahead.
[00:26:35] Vance Lowe: I never wasn good at spelling. Anyway. Anyway, uh, so we need to know that Willie Sutton law is there. Ignorance is not gonna help us when it comes to people taking advantage of us. We’re just gonna be sitting ducks. So. Yeah, our next step is gonna be the golden Rule, but let’s kinda wait on that, Eric.
[00:26:57] Eric (Host): Okay.
[00:26:57] Eric (Host): Let’s have that for the next podcast. And Seth, I [00:27:00] do not wanna disagree with the statement that you said a few minutes ago, but I’m gonna disagree just a little bit. No offense to Donald Trump and all the Trump supporters, but you said he, he didn’t have to pay all or the more taxes than he needed to because he was smart.
[00:27:13] Eric (Host): I would challenge that and just say he surrounded himself with smart people and that’s what I’m hoping the listeners are gonna do. So to surround yourself with smart people, you need to get ahold of them, Seth and Vance. How do you, how do people get ahold of you guys?
[00:27:27] Seth Hicks Esq.: Private banking strategies.com.
[00:27:30] Seth Hicks Esq.: That’s private banking strategies.com is where you start your journey. And there we’ve got a, what we like to call a red pill book and for stopping in and visiting us. We’ll provide that book to you at no cost and you can. Spot issues that banks don’t want you to know and how you can increase your wealth in that process.
[00:27:51] Seth Hicks Esq.: And that’s the first touch point. We’ve also got numerous podcasts on the website that are available to you. You can subscribe through your [00:28:00] favored media form that podcasts come to you, and we’re effectively on every. Podcast media platform, I think known to man Eric. And you’ve also got the resources there on our website, blog articles, and we’ll send you emails that provide value and help you see how you can make a change and how you can create private banking as a great asset in your toolbox.
[00:28:21] Seth Hicks Esq.: All right,
[00:28:22] Eric (Host): gentlemen, again, thank you for your time today. I thought this was great. I feel a little bit beat up, but I also feel a little hopeful. So thanks for your time. Be Thank you. Thank you. You betcha in our last thank you. Go see you listening. Audience, thank you so much for tuning in and listening to the Private Banking Strategies podcast with Vance Low, and Seth, if you have not subscribed to the podcast yet, please click the subscribe now button below this way.
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