[00:00:00] Intro: Welcome to Private Banking Strategies Podcast with Vance Low and Seth Hicks, your secret weapon to protect your assets and never have to start over financially again. Vance and Seth help high net worth individuals, families, business owners, and investors, structure and asset protected tax-free fortress for their families.
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[00:00:38] Eric (Host): Hello and welcome to Private Banking Strategies with Vance Low and Seth Ethics.
[00:00:41] Eric (Host): If you are just joining us, this has been a wild ride here. Here’s the thing. We are in part three of just a three part story that started off so simple, elegant, but simple, talking about a, a young man who learned about private banking strategies and how. It could help him finance the vehicles and [00:01:00] equipment that he needed for his business.
[00:01:01] Eric (Host): And from there, it has exploded. It’s, it’s, it’s amazing to me to see this transition. There are loom videos, we’ll talk more about that in a little bit. But there are loom videos that are, are available to you for free so that you can get those and take a look, because you’ll be able to see the numbers on the screen that they’re talking about.
[00:01:16] Eric (Host): But the first two podcasts, go back and listen to those. It sets the foundation for everything that’s happening right now. But we are so far beyond financing equipment. It’s, it’s crazy. And today we’re starting with Seth. Seth, you’re gonna pick up the story where we kinda left off on the last podcast.
[00:01:31] Eric (Host): This has exploded into something that I, I’d never imagined. So where do we start today?
[00:01:36] Seth Hicks Esq.: Well, thank you, Eric, for having us again. This story about Paul bunion and equipment financing is one that really blows people’s mind. He started off with making a $40,000. Capitalization of his bank for four years and where he ends up by the time this is over is taking, uh, half a million dollars in tax free retirement money.[00:02:00]
[00:02:00] Seth Hicks Esq.: Year after year without end, and having $5 million in cash value and over $5 million in death benefit to his beneficiaries from that simple investment, people scratch their head or skeptically say, that’s impossible. But it’s not impossible with. When you get multiple touches on the same dollar, and we alluded to this in in part one of Paul Bunion Equipment Financing podcast, and that’s the way that you create the lift and you’re able to accomplish this type of astounding growth and return.
[00:02:33] Seth Hicks Esq.: So he used the $40,000 capitalization to fund his bank. Then he took proceeds out of his bank. Financed his equipment through his own private bank and paid himself interest on those loans. Then he began to add to the equipment purchases until he solely financed all of his own business needs, and he was getting one touch with the premium dollar, paid another touch with the [00:03:00] loan to his business, another touch with the actual acquisition of the equipment, and then another touch with the repayment back to his loan.
[00:03:08] Seth Hicks Esq.: So we described a gentleman who did a raw land deal and had a multiple X factor in a cell within a year that’s called a windfall. And when someone has a windfall, they’re gonna be able to fill up their bank capitalization up to the MEC line rather quickly. And then they’re gonna have a cash lump sitting there going, how do I get the rest of this into my banking system?
[00:03:33] Seth Hicks Esq.: Well, you do it through multiple policies. You add another policy, and you predictably forecast what you’re gonna be able to capitalize your bank with. Now, let’s take this home a little bit further. For those out there who own, uh, an investment property, for example. Let’s say that you can purchase an investment property for, uh, a hundred thousand dollars and you’ve got a hundred thousand dollars in your bank.
[00:03:58] Seth Hicks Esq.: So you finance that through your [00:04:00] private family bank and you begin to collect rents, and a thousand dollars in rent comes in and you just for simplicity purposes, you take that thousand dollars that’s not taken into account. Other factors that come into the equation. But then you pay that a thousand dollars back to your bank.
[00:04:17] Seth Hicks Esq.: So you’ve got $12,000 in return cash flow going back into your bank. Next year comes around and you’ve got that capitalization there and those rents that have been there, and you continue to put that money to work. You can go and buy a second property if there’s enough in your bank. Mm-hmm. And at some point there will be, there’ll be enough to lever into another property and do that.
[00:04:39] Seth Hicks Esq.: That’s more of a longer term sustainable. Growth as opposed to the windfall type of investment. Now, we talked about crypto as well, Eric, and there’s been a long bear market from 2017 until just recently. Now crypto investors are beating down the door to fund policies. They’ve, they’re having a windfall [00:05:00] event because all of their assets are going parabolic and they’re taking profits.
[00:05:04] Seth Hicks Esq.: So they’re funding their private banks up to the MEC line and need more, and they’re funding those. You’ve got different types of strategies, whether it’s an investment property that’s spitting off a monthly rental income to you, or whether it’s a crypto investment with a a windfall, you’ve got different strategies that really need to be tailored to each person’s individual circumstances or each family’s circumstances.
[00:05:29] Seth Hicks Esq.: But the principle of getting multiple touches on the same dollar is the same with each of those scenarios I’m describing. Hmm.
[00:05:36] Vance Lowe: Seth, let me jump in here. You said something that is absolutely astounding, but I don’t know if our listing audience is gonna pick it up. So I want to go back to this $12,000 coming in off of the rental property.
[00:05:51] Vance Lowe: Okay? What we’re doing here, folks, what we’ve never actually realized is that I have a hundred thousand dollars [00:06:00] invested in the property. It’s at work for me, and it is producing $12,000. A year and at the end of the first year, I have $12,000 in hand now, but I still have my a hundred thousand out there and it’s gonna produce another 12.
[00:06:16] Vance Lowe: What do I do with the 12,000 in hand? Do I go spend it and waste it or do I put that to work at the same level? It won’t take very long, folks, for that original a hundred thousand dollars to produce. A hundred thousand dollars a year. If we put it back to work, we reemploy each of those dollars. Now we’re doubling our a hundred thousand dollars every year, depending on the ramp up.
[00:06:42] Vance Lowe: So he’s talking, Seth is reiterating multiple touches, but sometimes the understanding, we think we know what he means, what he’s really meaning. That’s money back. If I reinvest it, that’s another touch. If I get money from that, that’s on and on and on, and we get so many touches. [00:07:00] Again, it’s the banking world.
[00:07:01] Vance Lowe: It’s all about who ends up with the money.
[00:07:04] Seth Hicks Esq.: A lot of scenarios, people will have traditional financing and they’ll use their private bank until they have enough. Capital in their own bank to acquire an asset. So that $12,000 in hand usually is utilized to go and attack third party debt, which then they, their bank owns and they begin to capture that rental cash flow into their own banking system, paying their own bank interest and so on.
[00:07:30] Seth Hicks Esq.: And then the next year they’ve got another 12,000 and they go attack that other financing that they’ve used to lever into the property. And if you start to work out these mechanics, as we do with real estate investors all the time, they’ll get creative when how they can use both bank financing and their own private bank to lever into multiple properties and then attack those third party.
[00:07:52] Seth Hicks Esq.: Financing arrangements until they’re not there anymore. And here’s just a teaser for another series when, we’ll, we’re gonna talk about [00:08:00] recasting alone and being able to skip paying all the interest and, uh, principle curve that traditionally goes with real estate financing. Spoiler alert, if you go and look at your, your financing disclosures on your home or an investment property, you’re gonna see you’re paying 3, 4, 5 times.
[00:08:19] Seth Hicks Esq.: The value of the property, and most of that is an interest. Well, when you recast a loan rather than refinance a loan, they’re very, very different. You get to skip paying all that interest, and you’re actually gonna be capturing that interest in your own bank.
[00:08:33] Vance Lowe: The average American we know today when they’re making payments out, money flowing away from us, 34 and a half cents or more now on the dollar is going for interest.
[00:08:45] Vance Lowe: We call that headwind. Let’s say we’ve got an airplane and we’re so excited. We’ve just learned how to fly. We take the airplane up for our first solo flight, but we forget to check the weather. Mm-hmm. And we run headlong into a 340 [00:09:00] mile an hour headwind. Now our plane only goes a hundred miles an hour.
[00:09:03] Vance Lowe: What’s gonna happen to the plane if we don’t backwards? Get back on the ground? We’re going backwards 200 miles an hour. Right. 340 miles. That’s our interest with the decimal removed. Now we call that headwind. What would it be like if we bought that debt and that payment came into us? What happens, folks, is that no longer becomes a headwind.
[00:09:24] Vance Lowe: It’s 180 degree tailwind Now. Pictured that airplane up the air flying at a hundred miles an hour with a 340 mile an hour tailwind. Now how fast is that plane going? But that’s not the scope. The scope is double that at the headwind and the tailwind, but you’re over 800 miles an hour. You’ve made an 800% change in your life, not a little bit, a huge amount that people don’t understand.
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[00:10:24] Eric (Host): Alright guys, I know that this is the third podcast of, of this story, and as we’re wrapping this story up. The inevitable end is coming, which is a good thing, retirement, right? So you guys are gonna touch on what retirement looks like for this young man who started years ago financing equipment.
[00:10:39] Eric (Host): But I know that it’s not just his story. There’s a lot of people listening to this that are approaching retirement very quickly, and this can be part of their story too. So I’m really excited to hear kind of how this all works. You touched on the the 401k issue on the last one, just barely. And Seth, I know that you’re gonna kind of dive into that a little bit more and what this looks like compared to the markets, compared [00:11:00] to 4 0 1 Ks and all those other things.
[00:11:02] Eric (Host): So let’s hear it. I need to understand what this guy had at at retirement.
[00:11:05] Seth Hicks Esq.: Well, that’s what blows your mind with this is that that compounding growth and tax-free growth creates such, such a tailwind that he’s able to effectively pull out $500,000 a year, and this is a 30 5-year-old illustration. So in today’s numbers, you have to adjust that for inflation.
[00:11:25] Seth Hicks Esq.: Andy’s got a massive corpus for his beneficiaries. What the number one fear of retirement age folks out there according to statistical analysis, that they’re not gonna have enough money to make it through the rest of their life, and that they’re gonna run outta money when they need it most. Or they’re gonna have these unexpected medical care issues and not have that nest egg preserved and protected from risk.
[00:11:50] Seth Hicks Esq.: And what this strategy private banking strategies does is it allows you to be able to access that liquidity at any time without penalty. [00:12:00] Without any taxation. So that’s very, very different than your 4 0 1 Ks your, your 4 0 3 Bs and other general retirement programs, which have hefty taxes. And in fact, you and I, Eric or Vance or any of our listeners out there cannot tell.
[00:12:18] Seth Hicks Esq.: What that tax rate will be when they’re gonna be pulling that money out. And if there’s tied to the markets, they don’t even know what’s gonna be there. So to me that is not a predictable strategy that someone can bank on that’s just hope for the best and hope it all works out. And when you’re 65 or 70 years old, from the friends and the family and the clients that that I have, they don’t wanna hope for the best strategy.
[00:12:44] Seth Hicks Esq.: They want a rock solid. A secured, predictable plan that they know where they’re gonna be, where they’re gonna be sleeping, how much money they’re gonna have, and how they’re going to provide for themselves in that critical time.
[00:12:58] Vance Lowe: Yeah, I, I, I, I wanna make a [00:13:00] comment on that. I, I agree with that a hundred percent.
[00:13:02] Vance Lowe: Security is number one. We’ve lived a lifetime. The baby boomers have lived a lifetime with what I call exotic investments. It’s okay to take risk here, and we got away from the safety factor. Now that we’re getting close to retirement at what nest egg we have, we want it locked solid. There is no risk in these contracts.
[00:13:25] Vance Lowe: The life insurance industry are the industry, which is the safest industry on the planet in our lifetime. We haven’t had any cash values lost from failure of a life insurance company. They have to maintain what’s known as a hundred percent cash reserve on all of their cash value. So if the company gets crosswise, other companies are there to.
[00:13:50] Vance Lowe: To scarf it up, they’re, they’re gone in a day. So what he’s talking about here is just really ironclad. And that reminds me of in Nelson Nash’s book. [00:14:00] Yeah. There’s five principles that you live by, and this is a funny one. It’s called the Willie Sutton Law. If you look back in history, Willie Sutton was a famous bank robber, and he got caught and he got interviewed and he was asked, well, Willie, why do you rob banks?
[00:14:15] Vance Lowe: And he hit his head and he said, duh, that’s where the money is. So when we’re talking about 4 0 1 Ks and we’re talking about investments that have risk. Willie Sutton’s out there, and if he can steal our money, if he can take our money, if government and the IRS can take our money, they will. Yeah. And that’s the fear that Seth here is talking about.
[00:14:37] Vance Lowe: I’m gonna run outta money or somebody’s gonna take it from me, or I’m gonna outlive it. So I thought I’d just add that to call me an end. But I love where we’re going.
[00:14:47] Eric (Host): Yeah. And, and I know that this isn’t something Vance, you’re, you’re not saying these things to be a fear monger or try to implant fear into people.
[00:14:54] Eric (Host): Let’s just look at the reality of what’s happened. The pandemic hit the markets, you know, took a serious dip, [00:15:00] 30 some odd percent in just a couple months. Yes, they have come back, but what happened to those people that retired right before that? It’s not that it came back fully to their accounts. I mean, they took a large hit.
[00:15:10] Eric (Host): Plus look at all the money that the government has poured into the country through stimulus. Okay? Yes, it has been extremely helpful, but Uncle Sam is not benevolent. He, he’s gonna want that back and bottom line is that we don’t know what taxes are gonna be like in the future. I think everybody listening to this, if you ask yourself the question, are taxes gonna go up or taxes gonna go down in the future, they have to go up, right?
[00:15:33] Eric (Host): I mean, they, they just have to go up because that’s what Uncle Sam wants. He, he needs that money back or he wants that money back at least. So I love the fact that you bring those things up.
[00:15:42] Vance Lowe: So why on earth when it comes to, I call it hurt mentality, why on earth would we wanna postpone paying taxes on a lower percentage today and pay a much higher tax in the future?
[00:15:54] Seth Hicks Esq.: Boggles my mind, and that’s what I was talking about before, is you’re, you’re gonna pay taxes [00:16:00] now or later, or both. Mm-hmm. Here’s the sad reality is that our current administration have already promised that there’s gonna be increased taxation of Americans. And they try to sugarcoat it, saying it’s gonna be large corporations and the ultra wealthy, but we both, all of us know that’s not not the case.
[00:16:19] Seth Hicks Esq.: This is gonna be the most expansive expansion of government since Roosevelt’s New Deal campaign in the 1930s. And you mentioned the COVID omnibus bill and stimulus going out. Consider these particular statistics right now. There were millions given out in this last stimulus bill that were up. Pork belly, there were eight 86 million given to Cambodia, 130 million to Nepal, 135 million to Burma, four 53 million to the Ukraine, 700 million to the Sudan, 25 million to Pakistan, and and the list goes on and on and on.
[00:16:53] Seth Hicks Esq.: The Kennedy Senator Eric was given $40 million for. Quote, the necessary expenses for the [00:17:00] operation, maintenance and security of the Kennedy Senator, and it already had received another 25 million bucks in a prior COVID-19 relief bill. And here’s the kicker. The Kennedy Center, it’s been closed the entire time, $65 million in handouts.
[00:17:15] Seth Hicks Esq.: So what? What am I talking about? Why am I saying that? We’re talking about extravagant waste. Extravagant waste by our current government that is going to be paid for. By someone who is, that someone gonna be, they’re going to get it out of American taxpayer pockets, but here’s the silver lining. You don’t have to play in that sandbox.
[00:17:39] Seth Hicks Esq.: You don’t have to play by those rules where you go, well, how, how can I not play by those rules? You implement private banking strategies, you fund your private banks, it’s tax free grows and compounds annually, year after year. There’s no reason to wait. The longer you wait, the more tax you’re gonna pay.
[00:17:56] Seth Hicks Esq.: So that’s why we’re giving these examples to, to drive [00:18:00] this home and go out there and do some internet research on extravagant, wasteful. Spending by Congress. They’re evil handouts. They’re to special interest in political groups that have no benefit for the American people. Whereas what Vance and I are trying to bring to the people is a rock solid foundation to help the American people.
[00:18:20] Seth Hicks Esq.: So, Eric, picture
[00:18:21] Vance Lowe: this, you can retire with a life of worry, developing ulcers and everything, wondering what’s going on, or. You take the situation in your own hands and picture a life where you don’t have to worry. You’ve got what you’ve got is gonna multiply. The money’s gonna come back, and you don’t have to worry about the income that’s coming in anymore.
[00:18:44] Vance Lowe: It’s done. It’s, it’s not gonna be controlled by government or anyone else. You control your own destiny.
[00:18:50] Eric (Host): Yeah, that’s a beautiful picture. I like that a lot. Alright guys, so we’ve talked about his retirement. It sounds absolutely amazing and beautiful and I’m sure it, it was with his [00:19:00] situation. But lemme ask you this, I, I think every parent out there and grandparent out there also wants to make sure that the legacy lives on, right?
[00:19:08] Eric (Host): So his retirement was great. What happened when he died? Because I know there’s some death benefit possibilities too, correct?
[00:19:13] Vance Lowe: Oh, yes. Great question. Remember that this young man had a great mentor in Nelson Nash. As soon as the young man realized that he didn’t know as much as he thought he did about money.
[00:19:25] Vance Lowe: It was very teachable. Mm-hmm. And so a system was set up so that this could be. A perpetual bank for this young man’s posterity, his kids, his grandkids, and whatever else. Just like Nelson Nash himself, just like I’m trying to do with my kids. We’re setting up multiple policies again on the younger generation.
[00:19:46] Vance Lowe: Mm-hmm. So when this individual dies, there’s five to $8 million. That’s gonna come in to the family bank income tax free, that’s gonna fund a whole bunch more policies. No good grief, that’s gonna pay off a [00:20:00] lot of
[00:20:00] Eric (Host): debt. Wow. That just blows me away. I just, I forgot that there was policies on much of the other family members and things.
[00:20:06] Eric (Host): That’s how you can set these things up to create the overall bank. But then the, the money coming from his own death benefit on however many policies, let’s say he just had the one on himself. I mean, that’s amazing to be able to then continue to fund the bank, multi-generational. That makes me have, I’m a grandfather, guys, you know, so I love that
[00:20:23] Vance Lowe: you just get in, you get through the first generation with what we’re explaining here is the Rockefeller strategy guys.
[00:20:30] Vance Lowe: This is exactly what they lived. They formed a committee. He never gave them any inheritance. He gave access to money, and so in this case, the older generation is gonna live off of the interest and income tax free. But everything is set up through trusts and multiple policies. So that everything passes on and refunds one of these days.
[00:20:53] Vance Lowe: If we’ve got time on the podcast, I’ll tell you Nelson’s N’S story after he died, he just died and we got to [00:21:00] hear his story and set up and it falls along this very long line, but it goes into great detail. But that’s the results. He has assured that this legacy is gonna go on because he’s not gonna pass the money out.
[00:21:13] Vance Lowe: He’s going to give them. Access.
[00:21:15] Seth Hicks Esq.: Now I wanna contrast that real quick, Eric. Yeah. Now think about this. Okay. There’s so-called financial gurus out there, and I’m gonna just go ahead and pick a flight. One is Susie Orman. Mm-hmm. She’s an supposed American financial advisor. And she’s worth probably 50, $60 million.
[00:21:32] Seth Hicks Esq.: According to her own representation in a New York Times interview, she was being interviewed by this writer and she was extremely concerned that half of her wealth, half of that 60 million or perhaps anticipated, I think at a hundred million by the time she died, would be cut in half and taken from her beneficiaries.
[00:21:55] Seth Hicks Esq.: I just scratch my head and I shake my head and go, it’s unbelievable [00:22:00] that supposed financial gurus can’t figure out a way to keep $50 million. We just told you how you cycle it through your own private bank and there’s a legacy value that has tax free transfer to your heirs. And by the way. It’s asset protected.
[00:22:16] Seth Hicks Esq.: So your creditors, if you happen to incur any, can’t touch it. And in the right states or if properly structured, and likewise with your beneficiaries, if they happen to create some type of liability in the right states or if it’s structured properly with the right legal structure, their creditors can’t touch it.
[00:22:35] Seth Hicks Esq.: So. Not only Suzy Orman had this problem, but Prince, he had a $200 million estate. Yeah. Or the, the artist, formerly known as Prince, $200 million Estate was a Minnesota resident between Minnesota and the federal government. They took almost 60% of that $200 million. And if he would’ve been properly structured in a private banking strategy, they’d have kept all of that in the house, in the family.
[00:22:59] Eric (Host): Yeah, and [00:23:00] I just, I know we’re wrapping up today’s podcast, guys. I, I thank you so much for your time and, and all the information. Vance, you said a word in the last part of what you were saying that we haven’t even, I, it just makes me understand more that we haven’t even scratched the surface of what you guys have to offer.
[00:23:14] Eric (Host): Again, thank you so much for your time. It was fantastic. Do either one of you have any closing thoughts for today’s podcast?
[00:23:20] Vance Lowe: I just want to have everybody keep in mind as you’re going through the podcast, as we’ve introduced this elephant on the table.
[00:23:28] Outro: Mm-hmm.
[00:23:29] Vance Lowe: And pretend you’re a blind man. And you’re trying to describe what an elephant looks like, and you’re gonna have to feel it, you know, and you feel a tail, and you feel an ear, you feel a leg or whatever else.
[00:23:42] Vance Lowe: You have to come to know this animal. You have to come to know all of its parts and everything else. And so that’s what we’re, that’s the road we’re going down. This is an education that was denied us, so this is what we’re trying to, not anymore bring to the table.
[00:23:55] Eric (Host): That’s right. Yep. Not anymore. This is what you guys are doing.
[00:23:58] Eric (Host): This is your mission and I [00:24:00] appreciate it so much. So again, thank you guys, uh, for your time. And of course our last thank you always goes to you, the listening audience. Thank you so much for tuning in and listening to the Private Banking Strategies Podcast with vlo and Tex. If you have not subscribed to the podcast yet, please click the subscribe now button below for everyone at Private Banking Strategies.
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